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Interview: Maulana Wahiduddin Khan on 
Intra-Muslim Sectarian Dial 
Mailinglist by reader @ 20.08.2007 17:05 
CEST  Via: "Yogi 
Sikand"
 Based in New Delhi, Maulana Wahiduddin Khan is a noted Islamic
 scholar. In this interview with Yoginder Sikand, he talks about the
 urgent need to promote dialogue and ecumenism between the different
 Muslim sects.
 
 Q: Although the Quran stresses Muslim unity, Muslims are divided into
 numerous sects, and some of them see the other sects as enemies. How
 do you account for this phenomenon of intense sectarianism and the
 fact that, unlike in the Christian case, there is really no Muslim
 ecumenical movement to bring the ulema of the different sects on a
 common platform for serious dialogue?
 
 A: I think this has much to do with the lack of modern education among
 Muslims. As a result of the Renaissance in Europe, modern scientific
 thought had a major impact on religious thought there, although there
 was also fierce conflict between the Church and scientists. But the
 scientific spirit promoted tolerance in matters of religion, and
 because of this Christians, then largely based in Europe where the
 scientific revolution occurred, were also inclined towards more
 tolerance in matters of inter-sectarian relations. This had to do with
 the scientific revolution in Europe and not with Christianity as such.
 
 The serious lack of modern education and the scientific spirit among
 large sections of the Muslim community gives space to professional
 clerics to exercise their influence by seeking to establish the
 veracity of their own sects by denouncing the other Muslim sects,
 instead of seeking to build bridges with them. Rather than reaching
 out to them, to seek to understand them or dialogue with them, their
 approach is to brand them at once as 'enemies', 'infidels' and as
 allegedly having strayed from the path of Islam. Maulvis of different
 sects hurl fatwas against the other sects, denouncing them in harsh
 terms.
 However, I feel that it is only through serious and constructive
 dialogue that you can reach out to other groups. If you feel these
 groups may not be in accordance with your understanding of Islam, you
 must seek to dialogue with them. Denouncing them will only further
 promote conflict.
 
 
 
 Q: Are you aware of any efforts being made today to promote
 inter-sectarian dialogue and unity among the ulema of the different
 Muslim sects?
 
 A: Some efforts have been made in recent years in this regard.
 However, their approach has been basically that of seeking to end
 differences and thereby promote unity. This, however, can never work.
 On the other hand, Christians associated with the ecumenical movement
 tolerate intra-Christian differences but seek to promote unity despite
 these differences. They agree to disagree. But there is no such
 tradition among the Muslim ulema. They must understand that unity
 cannot be had by trying to destroy differences. We should learn to
 tolerate, not eliminate, differences and in that way the different
 sects can indeed come closer.
 
 Q: What do you see as the minimum common basis on which intra-Muslim
 dialogue between the different sects can be promoted?
 
 A: Unity should have a basis, and I think there are no differences
 among the ulema of the different sects on the basics of Islam, which
 can serve as the basis of dialogue. All recognized Muslim sects, Shias
 as well as Sunnis, as well as the various groups within these two
 larger categories, believe in Allah, the Quran and the Prophet
 Muhammad. This is the basis for their unity. The four major Sunni
 schools of jurisprudence and the main Shia school, the Jafari school
 of the Twelver Imami (Ithnashari) Shias, are all based on the Quran
 and Hadith, although they differ are on what I call 'non-basic'
 issues. There will always be this disagreement on the 'non-basics' so
 instead of trying to eliminate them, we should learn to accept them
 and despite these seek to build unity on the foundation provided by
 the 'basics'.
 
 Q: Does it follow from your argument that those who are engaged in
 promoting inter-sectarian rivalry take the 'non-basic' as the 'basic'?
 
 A: Exactly. Take, for instance, the case of the conflict between the
 Salafis and the Hanafis, both of who are Sunnis. Today, in India, many
 Salafis and Hanafis see themselves as rivals of each other. But their
 essential difference relates to a non-basic matter of some postures
 during prayer and whether to utter the word ameen loudly or silently.
 And then there are differences between them as to whether and how the
 opening verse of the Qur'an should be recited by a worshipper praying
 behind an imam. Now, these are trivial differences, but sectarian
 maulvis have sought to make a mountain of this molehill and brand
 sects who differ with them on such issues as deviant.
 
 Many such differences and disputes have long historical roots that got
 back to the period when the classical compendia of Hadith, reports
 attributed to the Prophet Muhammad, began being put together. These
 reports number in the tens of thousands. On several issues these
 reports differ from each other. One reason for this was that the
 companions of the Prophet, who are said to have first narrated these
 reports, spent varying periods of time in his company. Consequently,
 they reported what they had personally experienced or seen. So, one
 companion said that he saw the Prophet uttering the word ameen loudly
 in the course of his prayers, while another companion said that he saw
 the Prophet uttering that word silently. Or, one said that he saw the
 Prophet placing his hands on his stomach while praying while another
 said he saw that he had placed them on his chest. This was because
 companions were with the Prophet on different occasions and their
 opinions are, therefore, equally valid.
 
 These are differences on relatively minor or what are called in
 Arabic furui issues, but some present-day sects take them as major and
 use these to denounce other sects, who have different opinions on
 these issues, as 'un-Islamic. This is really unfortunate and betrays
 an extreme form of intolerance which has no sanction in Islam.
 
 Q: How did the classical Muslim scholars approach this issue of these
 minor differences in the Hadith reports?
 
 A: Over time, two broad responses emerged to this question. One was
 that which was represented by experts in Hadith, the muhaddithun. The
 other was that which was articulated by specialists in Islamic
 jurisprudence or fiqh, the fuqaha. The first sought to reconcile these
 differences in a spirit of tolerance. This was in line with the Hadith
 report wherein the Prophet is said to have declared that his
 companions were like stars and that he who follows them would be
 guided. This represented an acceptance of diverse opinions, or what is
 called tawassa in Arabic, in what appear to be conflicting Hadith
 reports that are traced through different companions. This reflected
 an understanding that on these relatively minor issues diversity must
 be tolerated. There was no difference between the companions on major
 or 'non-basic issues, or what is called in Islamic legal parlance,
 usuli issues. Even the Shias and the Sunnis are united on these basic
 issues, such as belief in one God, in the Quran, the Day of Judgment,
 prayer, the pilgrimage to Makkah and so on.
 
 So, the position of the muhaddithun was like that of someone who
 enters a room and finds people sitting, and accepts that they are, in
 that position, engaged in the same act, although their sitting
 postures maybe different.
 
 On the other hand, many fuqaha took a different approach. They argued
 that there is no division in truth, and that there can be only one
 true opinion on any matter attributed to the Prophet. So, they argued,
 in contrast to the muhaddithun, that either the report which says that
 the Prophet uttered the word ameen in prayer loudly is true or the
 other tradition that says he uttered it silently is true, and that
 both cannot be true and valid at the same time. But faced with
 conflicting Hadith reports that are traced back to different
 companions of the Prophet, they declared some reports to be true and
 others to be weak or false. It is like someone demanding that everyone
 present in a room sit exactly in the same posture.
 
 This approach helped solidify sectarian differences, as each sect
 sought to claim that its own approach to the Hadith was right and that
 of the others was wrong. And in the process, some fuqaha sought to
 deny some Hadith just because the school of jurisprudence which they
 followed had different opinions on issues that these Hadith reports
 referred to. For instance, the noted Deobandi scholar Allama Anwar
 Shah Kashmiri argued that several Hadith reports in the collection
 known as Sahih Bukhari may not be fully authentic just because they
 differ from the Hanafi position on some matters. The hardcore Wahhabis
 adopt a similarly rigid position and condemn other schools of Islamic
 jurisprudence as deviant. This is a form of extremism or what is
 called ghulu in Arabic. There is a Hadith report that warns Muslims
 not to take to ghulu in matters of religion because earlier
 communities met with a dismal fate precisely because of this. Perhaps
 this is because extremism based on such trivial differences on
 non-basic issues leads inevitably to sectarian strife and conflict.
 
 If we had followed the approach that the muhaddithun had advocated by
 accepting the legitimacy of diversity of opinions among Muslims on
 non-basic issues perhaps we would not have faced this problem. I think
 one way out of the sectarian mess is to adopt the approach of the
 muhaddithun. All Muslim sects agree on the basics of Islam, and on
 non-basic issues we should agree to disagree.
 
 Q: Some ulema might argue that there is no point in seeking to bring
 the different Muslim sects closer. To justify this argument reference
 is often made to a Hadith report which claims that the Prophet
 declared that after his death his community would be divided into 73
 sects, and that only one sect, called the firqa al-najiya in Arabic,
 would attain salvation. This sect would be that which follows the path
 of the Prophet and his companions. Each sect claims to be that one
 chosen firqa al-najiya, implying, thereby, that the other sects are by
 definition deviant or false. How do you look at this Hadith report and
 the way it is sometimes used to legitimize sectarian conflict?
 
 A: This Hadith report is in the form of a prediction, not a
 commandment that Muslims must be divided into several sects. Now,
 there is a big fallacy that surrounds popular perceptions of this
 report, in that it does not actually talk about the firqa al-najiya.
 It does not refer to any particular chosen sect. What the Prophet was
 referring to here were individuals who follow his path and that of his
 companions, who he said would be saved. He was not referring to a
 particular sect. This obviously means that those who are saved could
 belong to different sects, provided they follow the Prophet and his
 companions. This is because, as the Quran says, God will decide the
 fate of people after their death based on their own actions as
 individuals. If we look at this Hadith in this way, it can be used as
 a means to promote inter-sectarian harmony, rather than to promote
 conflict, as it often is.
 
 There is another point concerning this Hadith report that I want to
 talk about. This relates to what is meant when the Prophet says that
 those who follow his practice and that of his companions will be
 saved. Some people take this in a very narrow, literalist sense, and
 say that following the Prophet's practice means insisting on using a
 tooth-stick, as the Prophet did, or to adopt Arab dress and so on.
 Actually, I think what is actually meant here is essentially the
 ethical and moral model of the Prophet and his companions.
 
 Basic to this ethical model is the principle of tolerance in matters
 that are not basic to the faith but which do not at the same time
 impinge on the basics of the faith. This tolerance on non-basic issues
 among Muslims is reflected in the lives of the Prophet and his
 companions, and this is something that the different Muslim sects need
 to realize. Once a companion of the Prophet recited some words of
 praise to God aloud while in prayer in addition to those that are
 normally recited by Muslims in their prayers. The Prophet heard this
 but did not get angry. A similar instance is that of the response of
 the Caliph Umar to the question of reciting the taraweeh prayers
 during Ramadan, which the Prophet's companions, including Hazrat Umar
 himself, did not recite. One day Hazrat Umar came to a mosque and
 found people saying the taraweeh prayer. He did not join them in this,
 but nor did he scold them. Instead, he remarked that this was a 'good
 innovation'. The se two instances suggest that when the
 above-mentioned Hadith talks about the need for us to emulate the
 model of the Prophet and his companions, it also exhorts us to accept
 differences among the Muslim sects on non-basic issues. This is also
 the only way to promote inter-sectarian unity.
 
 Q: If such minor differences lie behind the genesis of the different
 Muslim sects, how did these sects become so solidified over time?
 
 A: Minor differences over one small issue gradually lead to further
 differences, owing to a host of factors, including political motives
 and vested interests. Take the case of the Shia-Sunni divide. In its
 origins, it had nothing to do with any differences over the basics of
 Islam. It was entirely a political issue as to who should lead the
 Muslim community after the demise of the Prophet. Later, in order to
 justify these differences some religious beliefs and claims were
 developed so that the two political groups eventually emerged as two
 different sects. Later, within the broader Shia and Sunni fold new
 sects emerged, essentially over succession to the post of Imam in the
 case of the Shias or over being the rightful representative of the
 Prophet's Sunnah, in the Sunni case, and religious doctrines were
 marshaled to justify these rival claims.
 
 Q: In several madrasas students are taught to despise and counter
 other Muslim sects, based on the assumption that their own sect alone
 is true. This is also reflected in the polemical sectarian literature
 produced by numerous ulema associated with madrasas. How do you see
 this problem?
 
 A: I think this has, in large measure, to do with the vested interests
 of some ulema who thrive on sectarian controversy in order to proclaim
 themselves as 'representatives' of Islam and Muslims. By condemning
 other sects they seek to prove that their sect alone is correct, that
 they alone have the Truth with a capital 'T'. And it also has to do
 with a certain sort of inertia and hostility to change. Teachers in
 many madrasas have been taught, from the beginning of their careers,
 to teach such polemical, sectarian works, and so if you ask them to
 replace these by books that talk of inter-sectarian dialogue, they
 might well refuse, not just because they may not agree with the need
 for dialogue or because they might oppose acceptance of other sects
 but also because they are trained only in teaching a particular set of
 books and no other. And if they are forced to teach entirely new books
 they might find themselves unemployed.
 
 Q: It is also argued that forces inimical to Muslims and Islam have
 also played a crucial role in promoting inter-sectarian strife among
 Muslims, such as, for instance, America's consistent attempt to set
 Sunnis and Shias against each other in Iraq. What do you have to say
 about this?
 
 
 A: Competition is part of God's plan. There has always been and shall
 always be clash of interests and egos. People and nations want to
 dominate others. This is inevitable, given the freedom to choose
 between right and wrong that God has given us. Others may seek to
 divide you, but the point is that you should develop the capacity to
 prevent others from doing so. So, yes, the United States is seeking
 to inflame sectarian conflicts in Iraq, but we Muslims must learn how
 not to fall into this trap. We must learn to dialogue with and accept
 the various Muslim sects so that the efforts of others to divide us do
 not succeed. God says in the Holy Quran (3:120) that the conspiracies
 of others cannot cause any harm to those who are steadfast and do
 right, because God is aware of all that they do.
 
 Yoginder Sikand works with the Centre for Jawaharlal Nehru Studies,
 Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi.
 
 
 
  Source: 
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